Comments on: Making pocket doors a little less shitty http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/archive/2009/10/28/making-pocket-doors-a-little-less-shitty/ A House By The Park is a first-hand chronology of the design, planning, and construction of a modern home in Seattle. Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:44:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Karen http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/archive/2009/10/28/making-pocket-doors-a-little-less-shitty/comment-page-1/#comment-12640 Karen Sat, 27 Mar 2010 07:06:33 +0000 http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/?p=530#comment-12640 Thanks for your post. The HB 690 is exquisite. And yes, way out of the park in price. I'm hopeful I'll find that either the Cube or Meis on the following site is a bit more doable for us: http://www.elte.com/Toronto/Summerhill_Hardware/433_0_Pocket-Door-Hardware Thanks for your post. The HB 690 is exquisite. And yes, way out of the park in price. I’m hopeful I’ll find that either the Cube or Meis on the following site is a bit more doable for us:

http://www.elte.com/Toronto/Summerhill_Hardware/433_0_Pocket-Door-Hardware

]]> By: Mike D. http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/archive/2009/10/28/making-pocket-doors-a-little-less-shitty/comment-page-1/#comment-10728 Mike D. Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:59:59 +0000 http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/?p=530#comment-10728 AZ-Wildcat Arch: Very interesting. I do like some of the <a href="http://www.sugatsune.com/products/productss.cfm?CATID=5&SUBCATID=14" rel="nofollow">Sugatsune stuff at this page</a>. Hadn't come across that in my searches. By the way, the Huskies pounded you guys in hoops last week. Won me $40. Thanks! AZ-Wildcat Arch: Very interesting. I do like some of the Sugatsune stuff at this page. Hadn’t come across that in my searches. By the way, the Huskies pounded you guys in hoops last week. Won me $40. Thanks!

]]> By: AZ-Wildcat Arch http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/archive/2009/10/28/making-pocket-doors-a-little-less-shitty/comment-page-1/#comment-9439 AZ-Wildcat Arch Fri, 08 Jan 2010 04:02:39 +0000 http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/?p=530#comment-9439 Great info! I have to point this website out to my other architecture buds here in Wash. D.C.! I too was glad to see the Halliday Baillie had nice design...till i saw the price tag! Sheesh. It's ironic that modern architecture was to be for the masses because it was easily mass produced...I guess modern distributors didn't get their TPS report memo regarding costs. I did some looking around, and ran across Sugatsune. They have something similar to the Kiwkset, but no exposed screws. Simple look, but still not the punch in your face awesomness of the Halliday Baille. www.sugatsune.com I also notice, the UK seems to have greater modern design for the masses. http://www.allgood.co.uk/ Wish I saw the doorstop that doubled as a coat hook. Rats. Well, looking good on your project. I have a rare 1950's row house with a great modern addition over here in Colonial-crap Alexandria that I gutted to studs, so I know your pain! Next project for me...assemble my knockoff-Barcelona chair! Good luck in your endevours! Great info! I have to point this website out to my other architecture buds here in Wash. D.C.!

I too was glad to see the Halliday Baillie had nice design…till i saw the price tag! Sheesh. It’s ironic that modern architecture was to be for the masses because it was easily mass produced…I guess modern distributors didn’t get their TPS report memo regarding costs.

I did some looking around, and ran across Sugatsune. They have something similar to the Kiwkset, but no exposed screws. Simple look, but still not the punch in your face awesomness of the Halliday Baille.
http://www.sugatsune.com

I also notice, the UK seems to have greater modern design for the masses.
http://www.allgood.co.uk/ Wish I saw the doorstop that doubled as a coat hook. Rats.

Well, looking good on your project. I have a rare 1950′s row house with a great modern addition over here in Colonial-crap Alexandria that I gutted to studs, so I know your pain!

Next project for me…assemble my knockoff-Barcelona chair!

Good luck in your endevours!

]]> By: Mike D. http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/archive/2009/10/28/making-pocket-doors-a-little-less-shitty/comment-page-1/#comment-8665 Mike D. Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:04:16 +0000 http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/?p=530#comment-8665 Kathi: I like the Vallis the best too, but my archs have used them twice and claim they are very poorly made and contain a lot of plastic that should be metal. I ended up going with the Linneas and they are actually a lot nicer (and bigger) than what you see in the picture. Kathi: I like the Vallis the best too, but my archs have used them twice and claim they are very poorly made and contain a lot of plastic that should be metal. I ended up going with the Linneas and they are actually a lot nicer (and bigger) than what you see in the picture.

]]> By: Kathi Beratan http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/archive/2009/10/28/making-pocket-doors-a-little-less-shitty/comment-page-1/#comment-8580 Kathi Beratan Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:53:29 +0000 http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/?p=530#comment-8580 I can't believe how awful the available pocket door privacy lock designs are! We're renovating a small bathroom in a mid-60's contemporary home. It's positioned near the front door, to be used by guests. A pocket door was the obvious choice due to space limitations; now that the door's been installed, we can't find well-designed hardware. As you have pointed out, not only are the choices cheap-looking and ugly, their usability stinks. The ubiquitous "hurt locker" is just absurd. We've put a lot of thought and effort into the design of the room to make this small space both beautiful and practical; we'd like our guests to feel comfortable using it! We're probably going to go with the Valli & Valli design you've shown, but we still can't believe that there aren't more options. (We're not going to pay $500+ for something that's just ok; for that kind of money, we probably could get something beautiful and functional hand-crafted by a local artisan.) Thanks for this post - without it, I'd have spent even more hours on this wild goose chase. I can’t believe how awful the available pocket door privacy lock designs are! We’re renovating a small bathroom in a mid-60′s contemporary home. It’s positioned near the front door, to be used by guests. A pocket door was the obvious choice due to space limitations; now that the door’s been installed, we can’t find well-designed hardware. As you have pointed out, not only are the choices cheap-looking and ugly, their usability stinks. The ubiquitous “hurt locker” is just absurd. We’ve put a lot of thought and effort into the design of the room to make this small space both beautiful and practical; we’d like our guests to feel comfortable using it! We’re probably going to go with the Valli & Valli design you’ve shown, but we still can’t believe that there aren’t more options. (We’re not going to pay $500+ for something that’s just ok; for that kind of money, we probably could get something beautiful and functional hand-crafted by a local artisan.) Thanks for this post – without it, I’d have spent even more hours on this wild goose chase.

]]> By: JB http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/archive/2009/10/28/making-pocket-doors-a-little-less-shitty/comment-page-1/#comment-7975 JB Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:24:49 +0000 http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/?p=530#comment-7975 Rejuvenation's pulls are worth a look, even on a contemporary home. Probably won't please a pure minimalist, but I've used these on some transitional style houses: http://www.rejuvenation.com/typepagepocket%20door/templates/houseparts_group.html But I think your architect is on the right track with the Linnea... the oval version is quite hot too. Rejuvenation’s pulls are worth a look, even on a contemporary home. Probably won’t please a pure minimalist, but I’ve used these on some transitional style houses:

http://www.rejuvenation.com/typepagepocket%20door/templates/houseparts_group.html

But I think your architect is on the right track with the Linnea… the oval version is quite hot too.

]]> By: So Here’s What Happened (on October 28th) : Andrew Flynn http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/archive/2009/10/28/making-pocket-doors-a-little-less-shitty/comment-page-1/#comment-7961 So Here’s What Happened (on October 28th) : Andrew Flynn Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:18:29 +0000 http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/?p=530#comment-7961 [...] Shared Making pocket doors a little less shitty. [...] [...] Shared Making pocket doors a little less shitty. [...]

]]> By: Mike D. http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/archive/2009/10/28/making-pocket-doors-a-little-less-shitty/comment-page-1/#comment-7947 Mike D. Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:12:05 +0000 http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/?p=530#comment-7947 Yeah, north of $500 is definitely not going to cut it. Such a shame. I actually think this is an example of too little choice and not too much choice. While standard door handles offer thousands of choices (too much), pocket doors seem to offer only a small handful. The <a href="http://unlimited.co.nz/unlimited.nsf/coolcompany/AFB40E3CA9580F6ECC2572F90074E561" rel="nofollow">article</a> I linked to above references how Mr. Halliday feels the same way about pocket door hardware. Unfortunately, I wish he had a twin brother in China who could produce something similar for a reasonable price. Yeah, north of $500 is definitely not going to cut it. Such a shame.

I actually think this is an example of too little choice and not too much choice. While standard door handles offer thousands of choices (too much), pocket doors seem to offer only a small handful. The article I linked to above references how Mr. Halliday feels the same way about pocket door hardware. Unfortunately, I wish he had a twin brother in China who could produce something similar for a reasonable price.

]]> By: Kevin E. http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/archive/2009/10/28/making-pocket-doors-a-little-less-shitty/comment-page-1/#comment-7946 Kevin E. Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:00:39 +0000 http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/?p=530#comment-7946 I'm going officially on record for the Linnea. It is somewhere between 1/2 to 1/4 (!) of the cost of the versions shown here (the preferred Halliday number is north of $500 per lock). It has a slim profile so it works for narrow doors and narrow pockets- this is a key component that some of the others miss. They may have a slightly better interface, but they cause other (protrusion) issues for the overall door composition. I hate to say it, but this reminds me of a recent blog post..... http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/08/architecture-choice/ I’m going officially on record for the Linnea. It is somewhere between 1/2 to 1/4 (!) of the cost of the versions shown here (the preferred Halliday number is north of $500 per lock). It has a slim profile so it works for narrow doors and narrow pockets- this is a key component that some of the others miss. They may have a slightly better interface, but they cause other (protrusion) issues for the overall door composition.
I hate to say it, but this reminds me of a recent blog post…..
http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/08/architecture-choice/

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